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(Rumination is internal activity focused on past events. It is preoccupation with perceived mistakes, losses, slights, actions taken or not taken, opportunities forever lost.  The feelings associated with obsessive rumination are guilt, regret, anger and envy, low self-esteem, under-confidence and often anxiety)

When my 8yo son is eating the wrong food (at this stage we think gluten and salicylates) he will not stop until he gets what he perceives as revenge for something or someone that he thinks has wronged him. He obsesses over computer games and if he decides he’d like to do something he’s not happy until he has been able to do it, which may be days later. He is absolutely unreasonable, cannot listen or concentrate and seems to have no control of his emotions or actions. And then we change his diet and I have my caring, affectionate, understanding, very intelligent and helpful boy back - Sarah

I get these issues with amines. If I have overindulged I can work over any slight that I have felt has occurred against me. I’ll escalate and run through scenarios and build up from there. Issues at work are another area that seems to set me off and it can be quite mentally exhausting. If I do have a little too many amines I often isolate myself from others if I can to limit bringing others into “the drama “. Reflecting back on the years, my late teens were a particularly bad time for these issues and I was unaware of my intolerances until I was 30 - Maria

My eldest was thought to be autistic due to quite obsessive behaviors when young. I felt it was diet related (he also had many severe digestive issues) and a week on a strict diet made a massive improvement. Then we had about 3 years screen free due to obsessive behaviours and huge melt downs. He is still on a strict diet but see milder versions of these behaviours, very strong versions when he doesn't follow the diet or we've tried certain amines. He will obsess over being able to watch a show, investigate something, and needs to know how everything works. His teachers have commented that sometimes he just has to have an answer to how something works or can't possibly concentrate at all - but once answered he's calm and has gone well at school academically and behavior - Megan

This is still a problem for me and I am 70 I find that an overload of amines and salicylates and I am awake all night continually reliving things that have happened and worrying over things I have no control over - Lee

I have struggled with all of the obsessive rumination feelings most of my adult life but never realised it was food related. I undertook diet changes due to the worsening of symptoms after breast cancer treatment 2 years ago and found severe reactions to salicylates and amines (possibly more, still haven’t tried challenging all). I now know why I was ruminating. I am now strict diet, I have patience, feel joy in life and look beyond every issue to see the positive, nothing gets to me. When I am not on-diet, I can’t even appreciate my gorgeous 7 year old son being around me, I get cranky and defensive about everything. Makes life so hard - Terry

Yes my daughter ruminates. We've been very lax with diet lately and something that happened a year ago keeps coming back in her mind, where she can't let go of it. Feeling bad, sad and guilty. Over and over - Robin

Amines for me – it is one of my alerts that I’ve had too many amines as I’ll find myself remembering issues with my past career and getting just as upset even though it was 10 years ago!! - Jane

This helps me understand my mother's behaviour when she was alive. She was diagnosed late in life with celiac disease, and I strongly suspected that she, like me was dairy intolerant, and probably, like me intolerant to many other foods. I have been avoiding eating foods I know I am intolerant to, for nearly 40 years, but I couldn't persuade my mother, or other family members that this could be a problem for her despite her difficulty eating many foods. She would constantly ruminate over problems from the past, which I found very stressful to listen to. Trying to get her mind away from those problems and focus on a pleasant current situation, seemed impossible. She'd get angry with me for trying to change the subject - Margaret

My daughters looping thoughts and rigidity was much better when we were gluten/grain and dairy free - Alice

I think rumination is very common with both salicylates and histamine issues. My anxiety and rumination go down when salicylates/histamine are lower -- and go sky-high when they're not - David

I’ve definitely been calmer since being on the elimination diet. I think my teenage daughter may be salicylate intolerant, however she won’t engage with the diet. She has obsessive behaviours and ruminates a lot – Lee

Amines definitely increase my tendency to ruminate - Anne

Amines and artificial colours... salicylates too – Jay

I had these sorts of thoughts when I was undiagnosed coeliac, so for me I think it was related to gluten and extremely low iron and B12 levels - Carey

Ruminations in our house: our son goes to an annual movie/pizza night at karate. Every time he comes home from that he obsessively remembers the one time 6 years ago he hid from a friend in our court and thinks he’s an awful person. He also laments how he has no purpose in life and cries. He has now been to four of these events and always the same. Both kids are on moderate failsafe diet and our son is lactose intolerant. So it’s definitely a reaction but I still can’t pinpoint the cause because he has had other pizza at other times and not had this reaction and it happened on a couple of other occasions not associated with pizza – Cary

 

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